Richard Hunt Read
any peer reviewed article, book or documentary on evolution. You won't fully
understand it at first as you need to read and watch many to get a full
picture. Suffice to say no valid scientific theory needs God. After
a while you will see why so many intelligent people don't believe in God.
Start with the walking with dinosaurs documentaries if you want an easy place
to start. (emphasis mine)
Sure Mister, so, a person who after studying science has
a chance of becoming non-believer to a so called “God”? Mister have you heard the name Max Born? How about Arthur
Compton? Max Planck? Erwin Schroedinger? A German named Werner Heisenberg?
Mister, all of them have one thing in common… all of them are NOBEL PRIZE
WINNER IN THE FIELD OF SCIENCE specially PHYSICS. Now let see what they believe
after studying science:
Max Born |
“Those
who say that the study of science makes a man an atheist must be rather silly.”
“Something
which is against natural laws seems to me rather out of the question because it
would be a depressive idea about God. It would make God smaller than he
must be assumed. When he stated that these laws hold, then they hold, and
he wouldn’t make exceptions. This is too human an idea. Humans do
such things, but not God.”
–Nobel Prize
winning physicist Max Born, who was instrumental in the development of
quantum mechanics.
“…This
sense of wonder leads most scientists to a Superior Being – der Alte, the Old
One, as Einstein affectionately called the Deity – a Superior Intelligence, the
Lord of all Creation and Natural Law.”
–Abdus Salam,
winner of the 1979 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work in electroweak theory.
He is here quoted in his article entitled Science and Religion.
“For
myself, faith begins with a realization that a supreme intelligence brought the
universe into being and created man. It is not difficult for me to have
this faith, for it is incontrovertible that where there is a plan there is
intelligence—an orderly, unfolding universe testifies to the truth of the most
majestic statement ever uttered—-’In the beginning God.’”
–Nobel Prize
winning physicist Arthur Compton, discoverer of the Compton Effect.
“Both
religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the
beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations… To
the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of
every generalized world view.”
“As
a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the
study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this
much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by
virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds
this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this
force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the
matrix of all matter.”
“There
can never be any real opposition between religion and science; for the one is
the complement of the other.”
“I
regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from
consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk
about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.”
–Max Planck,
(the Nobel Prize winning physicist considered to be the founder of quantum
theory, and one of the most important physicists of the 20th century…indeed, of
all time).
“God
is a mathematician of a very high order and He used advanced mathematics in
constructing the universe.”
–Nobel Prize
winning physicist Paul A. M. Dirac, who made crucial early
contributions to both quantum mechanics and quantum electrodynamics.
“In
the history of science, ever since the famous trial of Galileo, it has
repeatedly been claimed that scientific truth cannot be reconciled with the
religious interpretation of the world. Although I am now convinced that
scientific truth is unassailable in its own field, I have never found it
possible to dismiss the content of religious thinking as simply part of an
outmoded phase in the consciousness of mankind, a part we shall have to give up
from now on. Thus in the course of my life I have repeatedly been compelled to
ponder on the relationship of these two regions of thought, for I have never
been able to doubt the reality of that to which they point.”
–Werner
Heisenberg, who was awarded the 1932 Nobel Prize in Physics for the creation of
quantum mechanics (which is absolutely crucial to modern science).
“Science
is a game – but a game with reality, a game with sharpened knives. If a
man cuts a picture carefully into 1000 pieces, you solve the puzzle when you
reassemble the pieces into a picture; in the success or failure, both your
intelligences compete. In the presentation of a scientific problem, the
other player is the good Lord. He has not only set the problem but also
has devised the rules of the game – but they are not completely known, half of
them are left for you to discover or to deduce. The uncertainty is how
many of the rules God himself has permanently ordained, and how many apparently
are caused by your own mental inertia, while the solution generally becomes
possible only through freedom from its limitations. This is perhaps the most
exciting thing in the game.”
–Erwin
Schroedinger, winner of the 1933 Nobel Prize in Physics “for the discovery of
new productive forms of atomic theory.”
“When the province of physical theory
was extended to encompass microscopic phenomena, through the creation of
quantum mechanics, the concept of consciousness came to the fore again; it was
not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent
way without reference to the consciousness,” and “The content of
consciousness is an ultimate reality.”
- Nobel
Prize winning physicist Eugene Wigner
Speaking of Evolution, Nobel Prize winning Havard
University Biologist George Wald has say on this:
“It
has occurred to me lately—I must confess with some shock at first to my
scientific sensibilities—that both questions [the origin of mind and the
origin of life from nonliving matter] might be brought into some degree of
congruence. This is with the assumption that mind, rather than
emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has existed always as
the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality—the stuff of which
physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It is mind that has composed a
physical universe that breeds life and so eventually evolves creatures that
know and create: science-, art-, and technology-making animals.”
Mister may I add some notable people if you may… these
are not ordinary person but a person of science whose contribution to modern knowledge
is very important:
“Science
is incompetent to reason upon the creation of matter itself out of nothing.
We have reached the utmost limit of our thinking faculties when we have
admitted that because matter cannot be eternal and self-existent it must have
been created.”
–Physicist
and mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, who is credited with formulating
classical electromagnetic theory and whose contributions to science are
considered to be of the same magnitude as those of Einstein and Newton.
“I
believe that the more thoroughly science is studied, the further does it take
us from anything comparable to atheism.”
–Lord
William Kelvin, who was noted for his theoretical work on thermodynamics,
the concept of absolute zero and the Kelvin temperature scale based upon it.
Now having said so, let Mr. Werner Heisenberg summarize
this case who succinctly explained the divergence between biology and physics with
regard to God:
Werner Heisenberg |
“The first gulp from the glass of
natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass
God is waiting for you.”
-Werner
Heisenberg, a Nobel Prize winner in Physics for creating quantum mechanics.
But I can’t put myself not to include some men of
science in this post Mister J so
once again allow me to post it here:
“A
Creator must exist. The Big Bang ripples and subsequent scientific
findings are clearly pointing to an ex nihilo creation consistent with the
first few verses of the book of Genesis.”
–Quantum
chemist Henry F. Schaefer III, five time nominee for the Nobel Prize, as
above
“It
seems to me that when confronted with the marvels of life and the universe, one
must ask why and not just how. The only possible answers are religious. . . . I
find a need for God in the universe and in my own life.”
–Arthur L.
Schawlow, Professor of Physics at Stanford University and winner of the
1981 Nobel Prize in Physics.
To
the question, “Many prominent scientists –
including Darwin, Einstein, and Planck – have considered the concept of God
very seriously. What are your thoughts on the concept of God and on the
existence of God?”
Christian
Anfinsen replied: “I think only an idiot can be an
atheist. We must admit that there exists an incomprehensible power or force
with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in
the first place.”
–Christian
Anfinsen, winner of the 1972 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for work on
ribonuclease.
“Astronomy
leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, and
delicately balanced to provide exactly the conditions required to support life.
In the absence of an absurdly improbable accident, the observations of
modern science seem to suggest an underlying, one might say, supernatural
plan.”
–Nobel Prize
winning astrophysicist Arno Penzias.
“As
to the cause of the Universe, in context of expansion, that is left for the
reader to insert, but our picture is incomplete without Him [God].”
–Astrophysicist
and mathametician Edward Milne (winner of the Royal Society’s Royal
Medal, the Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society, and the Bruce Medal)
“To
me it is unthinkable that a real atheist could be a scientist.”
“Religion
and science, then, in my analysis are the two great sister forces which have
pulled, and are still pulling, mankind onward and upward.”
“The
impossibility of real science and real religion ever conflicting becomes
evident when one examines the purpose of science and the purpose of religion.
The purpose of science is to develop – without prejudice or preconception of
any kind – a knowledge of the facts, the laws and the processes of nature. The
even more important task of religion, on the other hand, is to develop the consciences,
the ideals and the aspirations of mankind.”
–Robert
Andrews Millikan, who won the 1923 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on the
elementary charge of electricity and on the photoelectric effect.
I
strongly believe in the existence of God, based on intuition, observations,
logic, and also scientific knowledge.”
“Science,
with its experiments and logic, tries to understand the order or structure of
the universe. Religion, with its theological inspiration and reflection, tries
to understand the purpose or meaning of the universe. These two are
cross-related. Purpose implies structure, and structure ought somehow to be interpretable
in terms of purpose.”
“At
least this is the way I see it. I am a physicist. I also consider myself a
Christian. As I try to understand the nature of our universe in these two modes
of thinking, I see many commonalties and crossovers between science and
religion. It seems logical that in the long run the two will even converge.”
–Charles
Hard Townes, who received the 1964 Nobel Prize in Physics for his fundamental
work in the field of quantum electronics.
“I
believe in God. In fact, I believe in a personal God who acts in and interacts
with the creation. I believe that the observations about the orderliness of the
physical universe, and the apparently exceptional fine-tuning of the conditions
of the universe for the development of life suggest that an intelligent Creator
is responsible.”
–William D.
Phillips, who was granted the 1997 Nobel Prize in Physics for development of methods
to cool and trap atoms with laser light.
“Science
is experimental, moving forward step-by-step, making trial and learning through
success and failure. Is not this also the way of religion, and especially of
the Christian religion? The writings of those who preach the religion have from
the very beginning insisted that it is to be proved by experience. If a man is
drawn towards honour and courage and endurance, justice, mercy, and charity,
let him follow the way of Christ and find out for himself. No findings in
science hinder him in that way.”
–William
Henry Bragg, winner of the 1915 Nobel Prize in Physics for his contribution to
the analysis of crystal structures by means of X-rays.
“The
more I work with the powers of Nature, the more I feel God’s benevolence to
man; the closer I am to the great truth that everything is dependent on the
Eternal Creator and Sustainer; the more I feel that the so-called science, I am
occupied with, is nothing but an expression of the Supreme Will, which aims at
bringing people closer to each other in order to help them better understand
and improve themselves.”
–Guglielmo
Marconi, winner of the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics for his invention of
the first successful system of wireless telegraphy. Marconi is the
inventor of the radio; his revolutionary work made possible the electronic
communications of the modern world.
“I
believe in God, who can respond to prayers, to whom we can give trust and
without whom life on this earth would be without meaning (a tale told by an
idiot). I believe that God has revealed Himself to us in many ways and through
many men and women, and that for us here in the West the clearest revelation is
through Jesus and those that have followed him.”
–Sir Nevill
Mott, recipient of the 1977 Nobel Prize in Physics for his research on
the magnetic and electrical properties of noncrystalline semiconductors.
“Physics
filled me with awe, put me in touch with a sense of original causes. Physics
brought me closer to God. That feeling stayed with me throughout my years in
science. Whenever one of my students came to me with a scientific project, I
asked only one question, ‘Will it bring you nearer to God?’ ”
–Isidor
Isaac Rabi, who won the 1944 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on the
magnetic properties of atomic nuclei.
“I
believe in God. It makes no sense to me to assume that the Universe and our
existence is just a cosmic accident, that life emerged due to random physical
processes in an environment which simply happened to have the right properties. As
a Christian I begin to comprehend what life is all about through belief in a
Creator, some of whose nature was revealed by a man born about 2000 years ago.”
–Antony
Hewish, winner of the 1974 Nobel Prize in Physics for his discovery of
pulsars.
“Science
and religion are very much alike. Both are imaginative and creative aspects of
the human mind. The appearance of a conflict is a result of ignorance. We
come to exist through a divine act. That divine guidance is a theme throughout
our life; at our death the brain goes, but that divine guidance and love
continues. Each of us is a unique, conscious being, a divine creation. It is
the religious view. It is the only view consistent with all the evidence.”
–Sir John
Eccles, who received the 1963 Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology for
establishing the relationship between inhibition of nerve cells and
repolarization of a cell’s membrane.
“Is
the Church inimical to science? Growing up as a Catholic and a scientist – I
don’t see it. One truth is revealed truth, the other is scientific truth.
If you really believe that creation is good, there can be no harm in studying
science. The more we learn about creation – the way it emerged – it just adds
to the glory of God. Personally, I’ve never seen a conflict.”
–Joseph E.
Murray, winner of the 1990 Nobel Prize in Medicine and Physiology for work that
“proved to a doubting world that it was possible to transplant organs to save
the lives of dying patients.”
“We
know that nature is described by the best of all possible mathematics because
God created it. So there is a chance that the best of all possible
mathematics will be created out of physicists’ attempts to describe nature.”
–Russian
theoretical physicist Alexander Polyakov, winner of the Lars Onsager
prize in 2011, the Dirac Medal and the Dannie Heineman Prize for
Mathematical Physics in 1986, the Lorentz Medal in 1994, and the
Oskar Klein Medal in 1996.
“If
we need an atheist for a debate, we go to the philosophy department. The
physics department isn’t much use.”
–Robert
Griffiths, winner of the Heinemann Prize in mathematical physics.
“God is Truth. There is no
incompatibility between science and religion. Both are seeking the same truth.
Science shows that God exists.”
“The observations and experiments of
science are so wonderful that the truth that they establish can surely be
accepted as another manifestation of God. God shows himself by allowing man to
establish truth.”
–Sir Derek
Barton, winner of the 1969 Nobel Prize in Chemistry, as quoted in Cosmos,
Bios, Theos: Scientists Reflect on Science, God, and the Origins of the
Universe, Life, and Homo sapiens.
And
to the inquiry, “What do you think about the
existence of God?”
Walter
Kohn gave the following answer: “There are
essential parts of the human experience about which science intrinsically has
nothing to say. I associate them with an entity which I call God.” (Kohn
2002).
–Walter Kohn was
the winner of the 1998 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.
“The
vast mysteries of the universe should only confirm our belief in the certainty
of its Creator. I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does
not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of
the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of
science.”
–Werner von
Braun, the father of space science and the most important rocket scientist
involved in the development of the U.S. space program.
“There
is no ground for supposing that matter and energy existed before [the Big Bang]
and were suddenly galvanized into action. For what could distinguish that
moment from all other moments in eternity? It is simpler to postulate
creation ex nihilo—Divine will constituting Nature from nothingness.”
–English
mathematical physicist Edmund T. Whittaker, winner of the Copley Medal,
which is the most prestigious award in British science.
“If
you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly
of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one… Faced with the enormous
sum of lucky draws behind the success of the evolutionary game, one may
legitimately wonder to what extent this success is actually written into the
fabric of the universe.”
–Cytologist
and biochemist Christian de Duve from A Guided Tour of the
Living Cell. De Duve won the 1974 Nobel Prize for Medicine and
Physiology as well as the 1960 Francqui Prize for Biological and Medical
Sciences.
Credit for the quotes collection goes to Mr. Scott
Youngren of godevidence.com whose
work derive from http://nobelists.net/
Photos from Wikipedia.org
I'm afraid that this, while a facinating attempt to "debunk" the idea that the more a person knows about the natural order, the more they are inclined to reject any religious belief, is rather fallacious. Its an argument from authority, and faulted authority at that.
ReplyDeleteBut I'll happily disregard that, since even so, the fact of the matter is that times change. Many scientists of the past, some of whom we regard as the most brilliant historically, were religious. However as our scientific knowledge exploded over the past century, this fact has 'stiffened," that is to say, as we learn evermore about the world around us, a fractional amount of scientists retain their religious roots. Your argument is bordering on the line of a red herring in its ignorance of cultural and developmental alterations - science changes, that is the very principle upon which it is founded after all.