tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6062653249320828091.post5551020874677001565..comments2024-02-20T00:49:56.321-08:00Comments on The Catholic Point: Did the Virgin Mary Experience the Pains of Childbirth?c.piohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12979713840818682878noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6062653249320828091.post-67182732970642361922012-12-23T14:21:34.418-08:002012-12-23T14:21:34.418-08:00thanks Jeanne. Sure I will :)
May God bless you a...thanks Jeanne. Sure I will :)<br /><br />May God bless you always.<br /><br />Advance Merry Christmasc.piohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12979713840818682878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6062653249320828091.post-29592292225239681222012-12-23T07:58:02.650-08:002012-12-23T07:58:02.650-08:00Bro. C. Pio, please visit my blog re: discussions ...Bro. C. Pio, please visit my blog re: discussions with Gerald Soliman and one Born Again Evangelicals in this URL: http://bornagainstanti-christandanti-mary.blogspot.com/2012/12/catholic-faithful-donaire-favored-by-god.html<br /><br />God bless you, Bro. C. Pio.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05389086249143198774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6062653249320828091.post-86542743851626867192012-12-05T04:22:06.792-08:002012-12-05T04:22:06.792-08:00Thanks for additional input Prof. Ramon :)
May Go...Thanks for additional input Prof. Ramon :)<br /><br />May God always bless youc.piohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12979713840818682878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6062653249320828091.post-90158540990215078302012-12-04T22:46:01.894-08:002012-12-04T22:46:01.894-08:00Although there is no explicit statement from the C...Although there is no explicit statement from the CCC on this issue but this is already well established belief from antiquity. The Council of Trent gives the most authoritative statement to this effect. Here are the relevant quotes:<br /><br />"Though coming in the form of man, yet not in every thing is He subject to the laws of man's nature; for while His being born of a woman tells of human nature; virginity becoming capable of childbirth betokens something above man. Of Him then His mother's burden was light, the birth immaculate, the delivery without pain, the nativity without defilement, neither beginning from wanton desire, nor brought to pass with sorrow. For as she who by her guilt engrafted death into our nature, was condemned to bring forth in trouble, it was meet that she who brought life into the world should accomplish her delivery with joy." (St Gregory of Nyssa, Homily on the Nativity 388 AD?)<br /><br />How can death claim as its prey this truly blessed one, who listened to God's word in humility, and was filled with the Spirit, conceiving the Father's gift through the archangel, bearing without concupiscence or the co-operation of man the Person of the Divine Word, who fills all things, bringing Him forth without the pains of childbirth, being wholly united to God?... It was fitting that she who saw her Son die on the cross, and received in her heart the sword of pain which she had not felt in childbirth, should gaze upon Him seated next to the Father. (St. John Damascene, Second Homily on the Dormition of the Mother of God)<br /><br /><br />His birth was in accordance with the laws of parturition, while in that it was painless it was above the laws of generation. For, as pleasure did not precede it, pain did not follow it, according to the prophet who says, Before she travailed, she brought forth, and again, before her pain came she was delivered of a man-child (Isaiah 66:7). The Son of God incarnate, therefore, was born of her, not a divinely-inspired man but God incarnate.... But just as He who was conceived kept her who conceived still virgin, in like manner also He who was born preserved her virginity intact, only passing through her and keeping her closed (Ezekiel 44:2). (St. John Damascene, On the Orthodox Faith, IV, 14) <br /><br /><br />Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, Ott p. 205<br /> “In general the Fathers and the schoolmen conceived it as non-injury to the hymen and accordingly taught that Mary gave birth in miraculous fashion without opening of the womb and injury to the hymen, and consequently also without pain (cf. Aquinas, Summa Theologica III 28, 2)<br /><br />O God, my God: I will glorify thee by Thy Mother. For she hath conceived thee in virginity: and without travail she hath brought Thee forth (St. Bonaventure Psalter of the BVM, 62).<br /><br /><br /><br />CATECHISM OF THE COUNCIL OF TRENT… <br /><br />"But as the Conception itself transcends the order of nature, so also the birth of our Lord presents to our contemplation nothing but what is divine.<br /><br />"Besides, what is admirable beyond the power of thoughts or words to express, He is born of His Mother without any diminution of her maternal virginity, just as He afterwards went forth from the sepulchre while it was closed and sealed, and entered the room in which His disciples were assembled, the doors being shut; or, not to depart from every-day examples, just as the rays of the sun penetrate without breaking or injuring in the least the solid substance of glass, so after a like but more exalted manner did Jesus Christ come forth from His mother's womb without injury to her maternal virginity. <br /><br />"To Eve it was said: ‘In pain you shall bring forth children’ (Gen. 3:16). Mary was exempt from this law, for preserving her virginal integrity inviolate, she brought forth Jesus the Son of God, without experiencing, as we have already said, any sense of pain." ("The Creed" Article III) <br />Ramon Gitamondocnoreply@blogger.com